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THANK YOU for your input & experience. :-) I honestly feel the stigma in kneegrow communities around interracial dating (asian + black; white + black) are looked down upon and it shouldn't. I'm happy that you said you went asian as well. It's very encouraging.
i might have to highlight this comment next week like i did with Sunny. perhaps i should have said "american kneegrows" because i'm def not referring to the blacks that come from outside of the states and live here. i too wouldn't mind getting old w/ someone not black, either.
it may be cliche, but it's def a message that should be promoted. i want a man who fits in my life like a glove and i don't mind if he HAPPENS to be a white boy or asian.
love this comment!
Sorry, sis, you fail.
DO SOMETHIN!
Therefore, you all fail.
@ Bridge3000 - there's this thing called Reading Comprehension - lack of such is reading ONE piece of a passage and running with that one piece without considering the context in which it was written, that being said
I mean, lets face it: I’ve been there/done that with Spanish men & their emotional ass ways. Black men & your daddy issues. West Indian men & your shovenist ways. Now what? I need more variety on my menu.
This is clearly a statement of her experience, she indicated her experience with Hispanic, Black & West Indian men - it was not at all a generalizaton, which is supported by the statements preceding AND following "West Indian men & your shovenist ways."
I'll come back with more later, i have to prepare a dinner for son who is 14 today.
Good article by the way.
I noticed that UK heads do the interracial thing pretty heavy...which is pretty dope. Here in the states, you can definitely date who you want to date, but mother fuckers will vilify you for it. If they are bold enough to do it in your face, that is...
ain't nothing wrong with knowing what rather go for. if they don't float your boat, then fine! f those who got a a problem with that!
As far as interracial dating goes, I have been saying for a while now that I would like to try something a little different but that shit is difficult. Why? 'Cause I'm ATL, which I will love forever, but... I've been eating this same shrimp all my life. I mean a sista just wanna sample some prawns or something.
But, then again, I have only had very mild attractions to guys who weren't Black. I dunno what that's about.
ok, lets make a deal: you stick w/ one name, ok? lol but yes, i def appreciated your comment. CHECK ME if i get out of pocket and am not seeing the light!
see what i mean about ATL? nothing wrong with shrimp, but everyday though? pssshhh! i think if you frequent areas that house other races in their communities you might be able to spot a cutie or two. perhaps you need a hybrid to start off with? lol
i also would be cautious about the person's family. i don't want to be on the 6 o'clock news because somebody's mommy or daddy doesn't approve of my kind.
nice post miss mo. i like ur viewpoint on here!!
see, that's my MAIN issue even though i don't really care about what they think: WHATS THE BIG DEAL? all up in your face while you're with your white boy! everyone has blood and organs under their skin...only thing different is skin tone, ya dig! honestly, if you find a hottie that treats you like a queen and he HAPPENS to NOT be a kneegrow, then you get that. OR if you happen to find good dick and he happens to be a white boy, then you get that too! it annoys the shit out of me when people give interracial couples the side eye. i wouldn't care what people think, but i would care that it's not being supported.
and you saw my question to the italian hottie, right? not because he's italian, but because that issue is such a real one. i don't want your family trying to kill me because i'm a kneegrow. smh...
i also would be cautious about the person's family. i don't want to be on the 6 o'clock news because somebody's mommy or daddy doesn't approve of my kind.
nice post miss mo. i like ur viewpoint on here!!
But i can understand being fed up of the brothas...they wear me out as well as west indian men, they're too much, i cant stand them and im an west indian women..as for the hair situation..it did come across me wrong at first..but i didnt sweat it cause it didnt matter and what the hell was i gonna do about it?..
ok... now this is one of my quagmires right here. i was speaking to a good friend of mine who's an italian woman and i told her that i'm ready to unshackle my fears and try different races. she even reminded/warned me about that very issue: white boys fuck black but marry white. now you know like i know that white boys give you that "i will suck your toes if you let me" look on the low and i don't want to be an object of that nature. :-(
thank you for your input!
see what happens when you step outside your state/city? amazing to see that in Vegas, wasn't it? trust me when i say that white boys love them some black women... they love black women sometimes more than black men love their black women. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE!
gtfoh... Ethiopian? girl spill the beans: TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE LIKE! lol on the flip side of that, my dad always said to me " Mo, i won't be surprised if you marry a white boy." he even tried to hook me up with a white boy who is a pilot for a major airline.... this was last year, though. *slaps palm into my forehead*
ok... that's how i initially thought too about their peens. i mean, what if homeboy got a nice tan? i can deal with that!
but check this out: you know what turns me off MORE than a pale ass white boy with a pale ass penis? a kneegrow with a two tone penis: pink head and chocolate base. *BARF*
Not saying that you should marry a white man, I'm just saying you should give other races a chance. You never know what could happen.
ok, i totally dig you for your input & am happy you met your prince charming. let's face it: men are MEN whether they are kneegrows or white boys. it would break my heart if i got with a white boy, liked him and found out he just wanted a slice of chocolate putang pie, you feel me? if i got a gentlemen like how you snagged yours, then i'm all for it!
@ lisa
thank you, my fellow white girl! i'll assume here that most people who comment & read are kneegrows like myself, so your input is highly valued! make sure you drop your input on things like this. :-)
anywho, i love your assessment on the men. i need to collect my own data and see where the pros and cons are. whats up with the "lackluster" sex, though? smh... that made my brow raise like The Rock!
I do have to say that I love the look of dark haired/dark complected Italian men - they and Greek men are the hottest of the caucasian breed imo.
I've read the comments above and while I wish I were bigger than that, I must be honest and regretfully add my name to that list even tho it looks "ugh" when you actually say it/read it out loud, but....."I too, just can't with a pink d*ck."
Ugh, there, I said it...but I've also never dated a white guy or been attracted to one in more than just a passing "damn he's hot" kinda way, so maybe if it were a situation/connection on a deeper level it's something that I could get past...
I suppose a trist or twelve with David Beckham and Brad Pitt could help me get over my apprehension of the pink phallus :-D
hey! i realized my "type" of white boy, too! we have the same type! *high 5* LOL i think if you had a hottie like Beckham & Pitt you would def get over the pink peen issue. ugh... so fine!
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! LET US KNOW HOW US AMERICANS ARE STUPID. LOL...
i totally agree, b.
Although, I have only dated black men. I am always open to dating someone of any race. It's sad that we(people in general) still think people of certain cultures act certain ways. However, I'm starting to realize why this might be. I think when people date men they tend to date the same time of men. That would explain why black men have gotten so boring. Despite what some people think (people in general again) black men are not all the same nor are white mixed etc. I think the only time we tend to be open to dating someone different is when we are dating some one of a different race (if that makes sense). All I'm saying is that maybe you should try dating different types of black men before you write them off ass boring alongside dating men of other "races."
Hope that wasn't too preachy. I don't go to church so someone's gotta hear it. LOL
i hear you, girl. i mean, men are like a box of chocolates with a variety of fillings in each piece. i won't disagree with you on trying different types of black males. it's EASIER (sad to say) to assume something is different by its appearance without investing time to gather knowledge of it. perhaps i have that case with the white boys who are assumingly different than kneegrows without giving other brothas that are totally different than what i'm encountering every day a chance.
it's just that my curiosity is allowing me to expand my horizons and test a few waters. it's an exciting chapter of my life and it's way more interesting at this point than digging for grilled shrimp in the pool of fried shrimp. you see what i mean?
GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT POINT! Nicki I might have to highlight this comment as well (like i did with sunny's comment) for next weeks post.
Yes I think while we are on this earth it is perfectly okay to expierement for the sake of wanting "Something New". Yes I have seen some sex white boys and me and my friend always joke that we are going to go to another County to find us a white boy to mess with.
I never been with one but I am curious. Not to be racist or anything, but I alway wondered how would their rhythmn be? I mean I am so curious and if I was not in a very committed relationship I would like to see if the grass is greener on the other side.
But I know I will always go back to black. Case closed! Its one thing to be bored but I know what works too! Just because I am tired of eating shrimp all the time doesnt mean its not my favorite food. Yes maybe I want to try crawfish, but then I would realize shrimp is better.
I want black children because I dont want my children all mixed up. You see this issue with "indian hair"? Plain foolishness...and my poor children are going to have to justify their hair texture because they are mixed? They are going to feel less black because that have another parent who is of another ethnicity. Its cool and all but I dont want my kids going through that ish...and I want them to be beautiful black children. I want my children to be BLACK & PROUD and I also want a STRONG BLACK MAN! There is nothing like a black man...PERIOD! Black men have the sexiest demeanor to me and that will never change...at least not for me!
But to each its own girl...if you crossed over and decided you like White meat now...cool. You know why its cool? Because black men cross that bridge all the time so girl who care what society thinks it is 2009 not 1909...go get you some!
xx
i like this viewpoint. thank you for sharing. now, i am single and curious on all sorts of levels about other races of men. it doesn't mean that kneegrows are disqualified when it comes to settling down or anything. as a matter of fact, all this race business is irrelevant to whoever my heart decides to claim.
i feel that if i fall in love with a kneegrow after testing other waters, then i'm riding for him & our future. if i fall in love with someone who HAPPENS to be asian or white or spanish or whatever, then it is what it is. right now with dating, i need to put down the shrimp for a while and see what i'm missing. who knows, i might be in your situation where i realize i'm not missing a DAMN thing!
:-)
Anyways. Call me crazy, but I have a silly personal rule to not date the same race twice in a row. . I don't follow it religiously, but its just a trend I noticed lol .. Good way to open your mind & learn about different cultures.. I don't believe in worrying about what other people say/think about my relationship. I mean .. thanks (but no thanks) for caring about who I'm with...but --you just do .. imma do me..lol..
I've dated white, black, dougla [black & indian] & chinese west indians , black & white americans, & hispanic ..along with some mad odd mixes .. [Italian, Black & Greek??] ..No preference at all .. Bottom line: I don't discriminate. Lord knows I'm a mutt so I can't even begin to be like .. "I don't date [race here]" .. or "I want to have strong BLACK children" ..really ? .. Besides, who the hell has the time for that..it's 2009 people, get with the program --.. life is too short.. If he's fine, I'm game...
i can't say anything else to chime in because this is how i feel & aspire to experience! *high 5*
and "YOU TELL 'EM!!!" in regards to the west indians! WE know wtf we talking about!
P.S. This does not mean that I am giving up on my black brother though, still have love for ya! I just the love would be returned now and again!
xx
this is a very good comment! thank you for this!
I did date a Jamaican for a while and I must say that was some of the best sex I've ever had. His pipe game was on point. His recovery time was bananas and we would go at it all day and night long, like real talk I've never seen anything like it in my life....amazing! He's like the only man that could handle my sex drive. Whew, I miss that. Anyhoo, he wasn't chauvinistic, but he just wasn't worldly enough. It's like he didn't know anything about anything, and asked me so many question that it got to be annoying. I felt like I had another child. So ultimately I let him go because he annoyed the holy f@ck out of me. That goes to show sex isn't everything, lol
But I would definitely love to try other races I'm just waiting on the opportunity to present itself.
Sorry, sis, you fail.
....QUOTED FOR EMPHASIS. i'm sorry but you bring the overall tone of this blog waaay down.
and why are you STILL talking about your hair??
hoe sit down.
there for your broken capslock message won't get read.
mmmmmmmmk.
Cuz everybody wants to marry non black
So if every black person is marry non black the black folks will soon disappear and everyone will be like white or latin and only like 1/32 black or some shit
And me personally I don't get interracial dating(I'm 16) I just don't understand whats wrong with dating a black person
well, it will be the demise if people are breeding with other races for that reason alone. its one thing if you find someone who is meant for you but happens to be of another walk of life.
and you don't get it for the very reason you stated yourself... you're 16. real talk, i appreciate you for posting your opinion, but you DEF gotta retouch this topic in 10 years.
It's great that you're willing to voice your opinion ; but there was no need to state your age like it's an excuse for you to sound ignorant. If anything, it only leads everyone else to draw the conclusion that everyone your age or around your age is just as ignorant as you are; Which isn't true, in fact, I'm 17 & I hope I don't come across half as ignorant as you do.
I'm about to start my third year of college and one of the things we focus on in the city is educating/helping the black young adult population....soooo, back to the fact that you think the "demise of black folks" is interracial dating/marriage.. let me just say... No, hun... That's not even close to it. . try something more like the percentage of black men under the age of 25 in jail in America..or the percentage of the black kids that don't graduate from college, or even make it out of high school for that matter. Get your priorities in order, go expand your horizons & THEN come back and "retouch this topic", like Mo said.
I wasn't using it as an excuse to sound ignorant I just stated it so folks wouldnt think I lived a full life and been around long enough to really fully know about relationships and race relations and what not
So chill the fuck out seriously
Most folks on here are grown and have experienced plenty and traveled
So I didnt want to make it as though I had similar experiences to their
No one should think my thoughts and beliefs and opinion are the same as people with the same age as me
That would be stupid because everyones different
You really need to stop assuming so much
Seeing that your in college shouldnt you have better sense than that
You seem kinda mad
Obviously since Im 16 I would have to expand my horizon Im not 98
You stating the obvious
Your comment was needed it was uncalled for
and for record let me just say nothing is more exotic than a black woman. nothing!!!!
Furthermore I could date outside the race and do find some others attractive, but yet and still my preference is, and will always be a black man.
i was engage to a white boy....until the day he called me a "nigger-bitch"! Before that day i didn't think that people from my generation ( i'm an eighties baby) still thought that way. Furthermore, when i packed my belongings and left his ass, he did something that ain't no knee-grow eva did, he filed false charges on me!!!! i SWEAR I ENDURED SOO MUCH NEGATIVELY FROM EVERY BLACK MALE FRIEND I HAD ABOUT MY RELATIONSHIP.
I used to date this eye-tail-an. Man, he was the coolest. I didn't look at him as white boy because he was clearly Sicilian. OMG, We had a blast for about the first 6 months. Then he felt that it was time for me to meet his family. I live in B-more and we have a section called Little Italy. His family owned 3 restaurants. His mother and father were cool with our relationship, his father even welcomed me to the family, his grandmother was other story completely. She referring to me by every racial epithet she knew..i mean i was every type of porch monkey/nigger you could think of.
But junior year in college studied abroad in both Milan and Tokyo. I had a "relationship" w/a half African/half Italian man. We never did the deed b/c I was scared of the pink penis. Silly now. But Mo, he was packing and fly as hell. I also had the opportunity to date a former professional hockey player/Harvard grad and professional playwright but I was again scared of the pink penis.
A few years before I had my child, I lived in Milan for 9 months for work. I rekindled my relationship w/my boo from Milan. The sex was crazy! Didn't work b/c I was moving back to the US. I realized what is the big deal. Date who you want. Some blk guys are packing some are not. There are trifling ass men of all races. Do you!
the best part of your embarking on the otha[steada brotha side] is learning new culture. in chicago there aren't many people as mixed as i am and niggas str8 niggas. they fit into two boring categoriess[bougoise or ghetto] and i desperately needed MORE. i enjoy learning about other people customs and the stares are fun. i've had black men[ that would never even check for me otherwise] go so far as to buy me drinks and say"nah u know u too pretty to be dealing with that whiteboy."[then slip me a number/card] and my mom wondered if my date would eat cajun food, but those experiences are funny/gradually become less crazy as time goes on.
GOOD LUCK Mo!
I've dated asians too..but the attraction to them is not as much as to black people. what do you think Mo?
btw, I'm from the Netherlands
And let's not talk about "black men are doing it" its black women who were sexing white men to create "buffer zones" : Creole's to keep blacks in check, if you look at the election right after apartheid south africa, you'll see what I'm talking bout, go and study it, it's eyeopening! If you want to date white men, just do it and don't talk use black men and their "daddy issues" as an excuse, K?
The mistakes I made was to put black women, who were in my orbit, before me; quite literally! I bought cars, down payment for homes, trips, lots of vacations, and for what? I've put my education on hold and my career so that I can make my black woman happy cause Oprah and Alice Walker told me I wasn't shit - Yes, Oprah sends out subliminal messages like that!
Now you've got someone like Halie Berry, she was supposed to be "for black men, no? A little too light for what I was used to, but whatever. So she got with Eric Benet, a known womanizer he cheated on her- oh, big surprize now she gets tired and goes with a white man. I tell you want I've experienced, white people act really peculiar when they see a happy successful black couple on vacation; it's just something you'll have to experience for yourself to know what I'm talking bout.
I used to feel...."self desgust" when I saw a sister with a white boy, but you know, you see it so much, and I have been "shot down" by sisters who have actually have told me, to my face, that they'll only date white boys! Let me tell you, for a while I suffered serious issues behind that, I'm so glad time has passed and I've learned to deal with that.
As far as color within the black community, I've always found dark women more attractive then lighter skinned women, I had a light skinned girl, as a matter a fact my first love love was just that, but something was missing, and I met a dark sister - wow! And let me tell you, I sure did like to clean my plate, at every chance yes maam, I did; now don't get it twisted, I'm not "small", every woman measures her man and I'm average, 7 inches, or that might be below average for a black man; but whatever, I'll not let me not having like 10 inches define me!
I'm not ready to do the white girl thing, funny, it's like after Obama, it's like white women will come up and try to talk to me. But NOT when white men around, not that I really care; I just play it off, like I said, I'm not ready to do white girls! I don't know why, but I've had to tell some that I'm gay just to not have anyone's feelings hurt or to be called a racist.
I can go on and on, but this post and seeing black women and white boys kinda "softens the blows"! At this point in my life, I'll not support Halie Berry nor Oprah, nor this "MarvelousMO" model: in this regard, I'm like white men/boys, do you really think they support Kim Kardashian? "White boys want to see themselves with black women and whoever else; They don't particularly like to see anyother race, especially black men with white women! Funny, it's like I've actually had it like thrown in my face by colleagues: "hey I got a black girl", in a mocking way. It's hard to explain.
I know I must be rambling, but I'm kinda thankfull for this post, as a black man, seeing black women swirl has made me really have to take a long look at me; I'm successful, but have learned not to drive myself because I fear loosing a black woman/women to the swirl; I SHOULD strive, not drive ( in the first place) only cause it makes me happy and gives a feeling of accomplishment; or goals reached - again, I know it makes no sense, but I'm putting it all on the line here!
Man, I just relaized that!!
With Kanye, well, ya'll can guess, K?
I've asked why, though I've not spoken to these celebs, I've been told: it's just that a black girl will put you on blast quick fast in a hurry if you wanna really "get down." Oh, Tyson Beckford, with that white chick/baby mama >> seriously gay! As far as women, I heard 'bout Sanaa Lathan is gay, or Bi, she too has a publicist, or a white male beside her. Gabrielle Union - Bi and a complete nut job, so I'm told!
But like I said, this post is a good one, it brought back up stuff I thought I had dealt with, but are white women who approach me do it cause they think I'm like a 10 incher, or what? I just don't know, but I wish there were black women, dark women who like black men, for real! Are they any web sites where you can find black sisters who love black men?
If you do, just post 'em, K? That's not my real email address, I'll not give that out. I'm 'bout to go on vacation in August and if I can find someone who makes me feel "real" shit, I'll get out the plastic and we'll both be on that Air Jamaica to do Port Antonio in a "2 week style!" So, do me a favor and send me the link, K? Oh, is it too much to ask that she looks like Gabrielle Union or Naomi Campbell? I just love that dark skin and I'm a freak, you can take the wheel at any time, if you think that sounds too gay, then no need to put me on blast, K?
Interesting fact: Inter-racial marriages have a much HIGHER success rate than same race couples!!!
2 biggest non-married groups are: Black women and Asian men, because they won't step out of their 'colour' box.