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But seriously, let's not play the 'Black-People-Are-More-Racist-Than-White-People' game.
If anything, I would argue that we are the more accomodating race, hence why white people feel more comfortable in black surroundings.
Many (not all) white people still have the same thoughts about us as they did 50 years ago. They just hide it better.
despite the lovely treatment, i can't get over the stares and comments. its WAY worse to be a blackwoman w/ a white man. society expects brothas to get whitegirls even tho many whites/sistas feel some awful kinda way about it, its still socially accepted.
i've had random men buy me drinks and tell me i don't have to settle for the samoan, i've watched people stare at me my whole meal, i had one rich older white man assume i was a classy call girl and ask if he could have me for a week..... i got stories for days son! ultimately, do you,but please don't forsake the sistas cuz there are SO many out there that need a gr8 man....
I am sorry Xilla I love you & this blog, but dont go pissing off all you female readers. Its bad enough there is a recession for men and here you go making the pool more shallower...
Like I tell most of you men who say the same thing about crossing the race line...when it comes to "black girls & their attitudes"...not every black girl has one. Not every black girl have them same attributes and if you keep pursuing the same type of female with the same qualities then you are going to keep that "sterotype" alive.
I can advocate and say that yes I do have my moments, but thats WOMEN in general. Especially if they have a period every month no matter what race, religion, hair color, whatever every women will have a MOMENT!
If you doing stuff for attention or an ego boost then I am really disappointed in you. You have other things that can boost your ego, and a white women should be the one giving you that extra esteem!
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST INTERRACIAL DATING,MARRIAGE OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT
MY MOTHER COMES FROM A WESTINDIAN MOTHER AND WHITE ISRAELI
FATHER AND THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE FAMILY WE CONSISTS OF MANY SHADES OF WHITE AND BLACK
I FEEL BLACK WOMEN THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY FEMALES THAT COULD GIVE A BLACK MAN EVERYTHING HE NEEDS LIKE THEY POSSESS THINGS THAT NO OTHER FEMALE FROM ANOTHER RACE COULD GIVE
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT BACK "IN DA DAYS" AND HOW BLACK WOMAN WHERE THE BACKBONES TO THE FAMILY AND HELPED STRENGTHEN BLACK MAN DURING THOSE DIFFICULT TIMES
BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED THIS WORLD IS A MELTING POT OF DIFFERENT RACES, NATIONALITIES, CULTURES, AND TRADITIONS
SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH DATING OUTSIDE YOUR RACE
LOVE IS LOVE IT NEVER HAS A COLOR TO IT
DUCK! sombody just shot the last o' da brohethans!
lets make it a point
whites aren't comfortable due to historical reasons. a brotha no matter what boils down to a larger menacing peen set to penetrate their most precious gift. since SO MANY brothas are w/othas, they've come to grin and bear it, but BELIVE that in the end their siding w/ their own skin....
society expectssistas to betacky and classless and lonely. bitter and angry before they snap up a whiteboy. sistas are always the least desired of all the races of women in the media, and as a mixed sista, i've been urged to wet my hair and dumb it down just to get a date.[maybe possibly] when a whiteguy shows more than a fleeting curious interest i catch ROYAL hell from all parties concerned. my peers, his peers, my family, coworkers etc. "u know he can't do it like a nigga girl.....how did u meet Chistian? he really likes u or just wanna hump? he must be paid huh? sweetheart u ain' gotta do that....u cute just pray on the Lawd's favor and wait fa dat nigga to be yo babydaddy and nothin more[emphasis mine]
it all boils down to lonliness and being excluded or made to feel less than...when u dip outside ur box its like poopin on ur racial peers.
Now, this is why sistas aren't fans of interracial dating. I wouldn't want to be some "white mans" experiment or Slave Project for a nite or years down the line. I don't believe that white women should be subjected to the same waste of time either. Funny, I overheard white co-worker telling her other white friend her theory about dating black men. She said, "I know a lot of black men date me bc they think that I'm better then black women. I know that Im just as good as any woman that's out there. But, in the balance of power I know my status as a white women outweighs his status as a black man."
Using ppl is a waste of time and doesn't cause anything except for resentment and anger. If you hold out for quality it might be lonely but when you get it it will be the best feeling in the world. With all the theories out there on Black Men not being available for Black Women I choose to hold out for greatness from a Black Men. I refuse to date white just b/c stats are against me. I want a Black Man to stand w/me at the head of our household. A white man ain't gone cut it!
Unfortunately you black men are jumping ship for "White/Asians & Other" *shrugs* maybe I'll try out Dominicans but to me they're Black too :)
Good luck Xilla but sounds like your the Capt. in the sinking ship.
Your anger has clouded your eyes and judgement. Which it does whenever you actually comment i find them to be negative almost exclusively. what i said was above... The woman i went out with was just a friend... nothing more. I haven't ever dated a white women but i have thought about it... I said to the boat load of women who were sick of brothers but get super upset when a Black man even thinks about it... it sort of proves my whole point does it not!
It was on par to when i took out a video vixen or when i was with the RnB singer. It's a great feeling. It's taboo, and to not add the way a person makes you feel inside to the equation of whether you be with them or not, doesn't make sense to me. but it is also a fact that a white person's status does out weigh a black person's status in this country. Obama is just as famous as Hillary clinton... Hillary is way more important and famous than condi... and thy held the same position.. it's just the nature of the beast of America... I think if we as black people wanted to interact more... things would be a bit different.
And for the same reasons
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There will always be a token black in a with a group of black folks
I'm a black dude and my take on it is, this: a large part of attraction is being able to relate to the other person. If you have more in common and can relate more to a chick who happens to be white, then cool. Do you. As for me, I've vibed best with black women so naturally, that's where my interest and attraction has always leaned. If your curiosity is stronger than your ability to relate to them...then you're probably in it for all the wrong reasons.
That movie "Something New" brought up a lot of good points. In the end, who are you more comfortable with? That's where the longevity's gonna be. Check it out if you haven't.
REAL SHIT RIGHT THEA! seriously! h5 or somethin!
Well if you prefer to date someone white then say that, but don't make it look like black women are the problem or that white women are somehow more "special" than we are. I had a black male friend complain to me that sisters were often mean and rude and I explained to him that perhaps he was meeting the wrong sisters. There are many classy, educated, kind, loving, well reading black women out there - but you won't find them in the bar/club. Try meeting women other places & look at them individually not as black or white. You might be pleasantly surprised that not all of us are negative sterotypes.
Society has us thinking that if it ain't exactly what you are, then it's something wrong with it. Everyone needs to get over themselves and their stereotypical way of thinking. It's a new day, has been for a while. There are strong white and other men as well, it's not just black men. There are polite, nice black women who would just as readily pick up a check. There are also a lot of white and "other" chicks that have bad attitudes. It's all about your choice and what works for you. In the end, Love is Love is Love...and the foundation of that is respect.
in general still live in the dark. This world is full of color and
you're right, no one owes anybody anything. Everyone needs to figure
out how to coexist and make decisions for themselves. It seems as
though most people feel the way they feel because that's how they're
"supposed" to feel and act.
I speak three languages. I have lived on the west coast and the east coast. Variety is the spice of life. And I like my food spicy. Color is irrelevant. If she makes you happy, she makes you happy. That is what I think. Peace & Blessings
We, humans, have been so force fed the belief that we should look sideways at someone for being different that we miss out on the good things about each other. Its' really a shame. I am thankful that I have the mix of cultures and nationalities around me that make up my friends and family.
OPEN YOUR MIND PEOPLE!!
I'm glad the donations are going to Sac. Food Bank.....There is SOOOO many homeless people in Sac. You know it's bad when OPRAH sends her cameras to Sac.
Although, I am not with you talking about taking someone out on a date but expect them to pay their half.. Sounds LAME as HELL to me..
Great article Blogxilla. Extremely insightful.
2. Slavery demolished the possibly of their being the same form of "family" in the black households as in the white households. During slavery, men were sold away from their wives and their children. The women had to be independent and hardworking while taking care and providing for their families.
3. We all know that slavery also emasculated black men in so many ways.
And as I've read in so many comments, Black men are still considered to be at the bottom of the social chain of status. My theory is that during slavery, white men were intimidated by the strength of their Black male slaves so they did everything in their power to keep them below them. Today we still see the same thing, Black boys are neglected by teachers in inner city schools, they aren't encouraged to get degrees, then they're refused corporate jobs. That leads to another issue where the Black man becomes intimidated by a Black woman's success.
As an African American Studies Minor, my issue with interracial dating is the deep rooted problems that it perpetuates in the black community. Black men refuse to realize that Black women are as strong as they are because historically, we've had to be. Black men are still absent in Black homes today and it started during the era of slavery. Many Black men have really never known what it was like to be the head of the household and so many people attest to this when they express that their mothers raised them and held down their families. This brings me back to Black women having to be strong. Black men complain about Black women's attitudes but they accept and appreciate their mother's who I'm sure for the most part had the same attitudes. White women were raised differently. This is historic. They were raised to take a back seat to their husbands and be a submissive supporter. Think of the type of family structure portrayed within most White homes. They were raised to be dainty and not express their opinions to their husbands. And for my disclaimer I'm not saying that any of this is right or wrong, I fully admitt that most of what I've mentioned is problematic. In my opinion from an educated point of view as well what I've viewed socially, what I've said is true.
Now, all that leads to this. Black men dating wite women when they reach positions of power or status because the thought that White is status has been branded into their brains for centuries. I grew up in Utah where Black people make up less than 1% of the population. That means I was 1 of 5 black students in all of my schools. At my university, there were only about 200 black students out of almost 40,000 students total. At least 100 of those Black students were athletes. From my experience in growing up in an area that is prodominately white, all of the Black men I knew were dating White women for the wrong reasons.
Thats where I begin to have an issue with interracial dating because it seems too many Black men are using women of other races, not dating them for love. Every Black men I've known to date outside their race has stated that they date other girls because they're easy and they give them every and anything they want. I've seen girls of other races seriously bend over backwards to catch and keep a black man. I guess to them they're a prize also...But I've also heard White women say they date Black men because many of them are bad boys, sexually endowed, it pisses off their parents, and also because many of them are star athletes and that has them set for life.
When a man says he doesn't want to deal with a Black girl because of her attitude, to me it says he's weak. If a female is just stank then thats just her but as someone pointed out all women have some form of an attitude not just Black women.
I know this is an essay lmao but it really is an issue and I just came across your blog today and I was with you on the females going gay post but a lot of what you said in this post raised red flags with me...I am a strong, successful black woman and it honestly upsets me to see the Black family structure threatened in the way that it is now but I don't think I could ever give up on Black men because the good one's are my kings! Luckily my boo matches my swag and I won't have to worry about that anytime soon. Anyways be blessed.
The strength of the black female is something that is great. I believe many black men date black women because of this! There are many white women that are just as strong as a black women. Yes history shows white women as submissive, but again that is HISTORY... today there are many women black and white that are the bread owners for their family. There are women in positions superior to most men... to make the strength vs. submissive argument in 2009, is like saying the Irish are hard workers and only need alcohol as their pay!
Lats is the idea why black men date white women and vice versa. If you want to make HISTORICAL references I do not get how you can say that the white women is easy... throughout history it has been perceived that black women are more loose then others. To argue this is just showing you are only using historical facts to argue YOUR OPINION. Then the fact that they date them because they give them anything and everything they want you negate by arguing white women dating athletes.... hell last time I checked most pro athletes spoil their signifigant other, ot the opposite. In addition with this pro athlete argument, there are about 2,500 pro athletes... seriously you think all white women flock to them? Hell throw rappers in, now you got 3000, but yet most white women can not get access to these stars... to me this is just utter BS. Then to throw in the fact that white women date black men cause they are well endowed??? Seriously why not pull more stereotypes out of the hat. Most women that are sleeping with someone for and only because of their size are not dating them... hell they are the ones sleeping with everyone just to see the size.
If you really are educated as you say I really feel sorry that you have been taught this way. It is justifications and references like this that make the struggles of race relations still relevant today. Seriously step out of the box and look at the world for as it is, not as it was... don't draw on stereotypes... these are the first two things any educated person should know! All I can say is with that twisted mind set good luck in life, but in reality I hope you don't pass your judgements and beliefs upon a future generation.
All the *side eye* that you're getting for this post...
You should date a Hispanic/Latin women, I hear we're great lovers too ;) hehe...
But aside all that, GO FOR IT!!! One thing you have to learn, and you probably already did, is that you will never be able to please anyone whether it'd be female OR male there will always be something that the other person will always give you grief about. Learn how to please and satisfy Number One, which is You.
XoXo,
Lola
Black men dating women of other races are more likely to be socially accepted than black women doing the same thing...for some reason, it's just like that. I just say "To each his (or her) own." I will be honest and say that I, too, have thought about dating outside my race, but I really don't think I could ever do it and be serious about it. Just like MANY others, I just wanted to see what it was like...I wouldn't let an "experiment" go all the way to being in love, like some people I know have...
Sorry I didn't make it clear, but I meant when only one of the people involved is in love. Meaning that if you're just dating the person because of their race and they start catching feelings and fall in love with you, but you don't feel the same about them at all, then that's when it's wrong.
in all honesty im not mad at u for being curious. and if something great comes from your curiousty then great. but i dont think its cool for u to generalize black woman. u know darn well all black women arent like that. like the other post said ALL woman have moments. and in my lifetime most white chicks i've run across (im only 23) believe in that LIE that black men are sex gods. not true. they generalize black men.
so black men want white women b/c they are more generous, no attitudes, and pay for things (HA!). white women want black men b/c they're sex gods (HA HA HA!) funny stuff people....think about it
(1) Sometimes (in my case), when Black men come around with their white gf's or s.o.'s, it seems as though they are staring at me trying to see if I am staring at them (and they give off some serious eye, too; like they're just waiting for me to say something)...could it have been that you were looking at them crazy FIRST and they returned the favor (lol)
(2) Where I'm from (DC), it seems as though many of the black men with white women date some of the most unattractive, sloppy-fat (as opposed to "carrying the weight better"), loudest, "ghetto" ones that are offered, but I think they think these girls are pushovers (I beg to differ listening to their bus conversations in the mornings)...so much for your theory that "they" are the anti-sistahs (for lack of better way to phrase it).
(3) On your anti-integration question, I believe it is just the opposite. Everybody wants to be "black" and embrace our culture, but they don't really want to fvck with "us" like that, while blacks have more opened minds and are willing to try new things more often than not. The large groups of whites in a club full of blacks to me is like bringing all your bffs to an office get-together, you're there for the fun, not to mingle.
(4) On the date tip, I was scared as hell when I did it, but I dated a white guy (my first real boyfriend) when I was 18. We broke up three months later (something dumb). We're older (this was four years ago) and throughout that time, he only dated black girls (he hated white girls... he has underlying issues with his mom), but he recently met the one white girl that he wanted to marry (she is 1/4 Hispanic) and he did. So, as long as you are not being closed-minded (which I don't feel you are), I say go for it! (Just don't think that ppl are looking at you all the time b/c it may be your mind playing tricks on you).
As far as the people who date outside of their race for the wrong reasons no one should really have a problem with them because they're the ones you don't want or need to be with anyway so let the likeminded idiots of the next race have 'em!
I DON'T GET WHY SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE TAKING WHAT BLOGXILLA SAID TO HEART
ITS HIS LIFE
IF HE WANTS TO DATE A WHITE,PURPLE,GREEN. WHATEVER PERSON THAT'S HIS DECISION NO ONE ELSE'S
I WANT TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE GET SO EMOTIONAL ON HOW SOMEONE ELSE LEADS THEIR LIVES AND HANDLES THEIR BUSINESS
I SEE THAT IN 2009 EXACTLY 44 YEARS AFTER THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1965 MUCH HAS NOT CHANGED
AS OUR GRANDPARENTS AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS THEY ALSO FOUGHT TO MARRY WHO EVER THEY WANTED (LIKE MY GRANDFATHER AND GRANDMOTHER), AND NOT BE SUBJECTED TO STEREOTYPICAL AND IGNORANT COMMENTS AND VIEWS SUCH AS THESE THAT ARE BEING DISPLAYED TODAY
IGNORANCE IS BLISS I SEE AND PEOPLE LIKE TO DWELL ON THE PAST AND NOT MOVE ON PROGRESSIVELY TOWARDS THE FUTURE
I LOVE EVERYONE DESPITE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ANCESTORS YOU LEARN TO LIVE AND LET GO
AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE
AND AS A SIDE NOTE HALF OF THE BLACK WOMAN SAYING WHY HE IS DOING THIS THAT AND THE THIRD MAYBE YOU NEED TO REEVALUATE YOUR OWN LIFE AND TAKE A LIL GANDER ON WHY YOUR ASS HAVEN'T FIND A DESCENT BLACK MAN AND STOP HATING ON THE DESCENT BLACK MAN THAT CHOOSE NOT TO DATE YOUR ASS AND FOUND LOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE
(AND JUST BECAUSE A BLACK MAN DATES OUTSIDE HIS RACE DOESN'T MAKE HIM A SELL OUT THAT'S ONLY A SELECTED FEW)
p.s. i have dated a white guy and a puerto rican and BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY " They Can Be Clingy"!!! its awful breaking up with them...they just cant let the shit go lol
no offense to anyone
If I am seen with a man outside of my race.....some BLACK men just don't stare, they get BOLD and say something to me!(soooo rude)
I don't even care if I see a black man with a white woman....there's nothing wrong with it to me!
Also I have never JUST dated black guys...I have dated asian, latino, and so on.
Just had a similar talk with my homeboy the other day... blk woman and all their attitude jeez...
Your last paragraph I think is really the issue with African Americans as a whole. Whites are just more ignorant these days than they are racist, but we are WAY too self conscious about shit.
Always diggin your stuff.
It is obvious you have upset some sisters with your post. Whether it be the stereotypes thrown in or the belief that they are "losing another brother to a snow bunny" I really don't know. But you can see that obviously interracial dating while more accepted for many it is still taboo.
In addition you can also see that in the public you received the same reaction from people. Whether it be the stares etc, white people too get upset about interracial dating. (I am assuming when you were in public you receieved that reaction from all different types of people including whites.) This too solidifies the fact that for many people the idea is still taboo.
To me it is what it is... for any sister to say that they lost one man, it is just the same for the racist KKK a$$ looking at the same couple saying and calling the female a "n-word lover." To be honest it is just as bad. You are insisting you lost a member of "your race" because who THEY decie to have a relationship with. To me its the issue of gay marriage all over again... people worrying about who someone else is interested in... seriously my your own business. It is 2009, not 1940 when issues were still in hand. I understand equality is still far off, but seriously can't we as a general population let other people be happy without judging them because who they hold hands with??????
You closed with the line "This leads me to think… Maybe it’s us who are the ones who don’t want integration." But when you are saying us, I think you should be implying ANYONE that is hindering such integration.... Black, White, Latino etc... its not just one race doing it, its segments of each race doing so.
We have chatted about this briefly via gchat. I have had plenty of black men tell me I am settling by dealing with a white man. They have also said that I am selling out because of what the "white man" did during slavery. If you have read my blog about my baby daddy, a black man has done direct damage to my family, and I was told over and over "give a brother another chance".
DO YOU DAWG.
No one is pure blood now a days any way.
Also I knew a White girl whose father disowned her for having a Puerto Rican boyfriend...there's still plenty of hate on the other side of the fence.
Example: i decided enough is enough and have decided to take a chance dating a euro fella and a Venezuelan guy..to say that i got more than enough attention is an understatement..on the date with the European man my so called "brothas" would be as bold as to come up to us and say " ay sista, what we aint good enough no more" or something to that affect...on the date with the Venezuelan niggas would run up and do the same thing or ask if he was my suga daddy..
NOW i say if yall niggas wanna go exploring thats fine...but dont get all pissy when we go see what the other sides like...yall be more disrespectful , and im bout tired of this shit
I've been in a relationship before where all did was encourage my man and try to support his dreams, an how did he repay me? by cheating on me two months before we were supposed to get married. It didn't matter to me that when he first graduated from college that he couldn't find a job, was living with his moms, and didn't have a car. I was there for him and did nothing but support his ambitions until he got on his feet. But once he did finally get it together he started "smelling himself" and did me dirty.
I could easily say I won't date black men anymore because they are "all dogs, trifling, with 2 or 3 babymamas etc" , but I don't , because its not fair to generalize all black men because of my experience with one stupid one.
If you want to date white, latina, asian, whatev, do your thing, but don't set up here and put black women down like we all have some type of universal attitude problem that prevents us from being loving, caring and supportive s.o.
I'm done talkin. Holla!
I do think we all should be a little more open minded. Hell, send me a sexy vanilla latte.
Why is it ok for "black women" to be racist when it comes to dating, and other women "dating their men"?
Racism across the board should be dead in 2009!! Love is LOVE!
If you're a black woman hating on an Asian, or white, or purple woman for dating "your man" ... it's still just as racist as a White person hating on a Black person.
Think about it.
Get Serious: No
Is that prejudice: Absolutely
Far too many decent african american men are not in the market for their counterparts. They find the view more enticing on the other side of things. Taste it, enjoy it, but when it's time to settle down remember that you have an obligation to more than just yourself, you have one to your culture.
The only obligation someone has is to make themselves happy... after that they have an obligation to their family, fuck the culture... it changes over time anyway, why not be part of that change?
Which is more telling about the man than anything else.
Thats why they get a white girl have babies with them hoping shawty genes are strong as hell and that the baby look white
So the generations to come are white and more accepted
Niggaz want white or light bright babies end of discussion
They look down on you because they dont like black women period
...oh, well...
I do find that people who date out of their race become amazed of how the other race treats them. Well duh! a lot of times other races are going to go out of their way to prove they are different and better than your own in the beginning. Ask a man who has dated both and most times you will get "ALL WOMEN ARE CRAZY" lol. I have experienced this first hand and it amuses me how we appreciate this as being genuine sometimes. Not saying it is always that way, that's ignorant but it does happen. We do take advantage of our own because we are too comfortable and have an understanding without anything being said.
If you are genuinely attracted to anyone of any race and that is just the person you are..Go for it!. But if you have foolish reasons like "Oh they will treat me better" go ahead..Women like me don't like you.
We need to stop basing Interracial relationships or being bias because of stupid expectations. If you didn't attract the people you do or date the people you did. You wouldn't be judging a race as a whole!
I didn't write all I wanted to say LOL but this is good enough
i'm aware that's a bold statement.. but if you're one of those women/men who complain about that.. you're basically saying that you're okay with people limiting their love for someone based on skin color.
if you were to end up falling for a white man... and he said nah.. i only date white women... you'd be pulling the racist card.. and rightfully so.
since when did skin color matter in love.
and who has a choice in real love anyway?
if there's real love there... take it.. and give it...
that's what matters in the end.
If a white man told me he wasn't attracted to black women and it wasn't based on a negative perception of the way black women act etc. I wouldn't care nor would I call him Racist. You like what you like. Color is just color but when you start putting stop blocks because of BS beliefs of how someone is,or acts because of their skin... than you may have issues you need to correct within yourself.