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Exactly!
But although these are obviously not the type of women described in the post, they are great comments and I think the best we can hope for - if left up to "True Hoes" to stand up and be heard...the comment box would be full of tumbleweeds and cricket chirps...LOL
Just my thoughts xoxo
and i pose this question: if a female wants a jumpoff whats wrong with that? Eff all these pseudo relationships when in actuality they are just a consistent humping partner that u can chill with. Whats up wit people slapping labels just so they wont be considered a ho?
It's just like any siutation in life, you know when you've gone to fast, gone too far, had too much & had too many
You know it BEFORE you've gone to fast, gone too far, had too much & had too many
Most women know that a man will not take you seriously if you jump into bed with him on the first night. So, if she sees potential in you, she'll play the good-girl role and try to get to know you before sleeping with you.
Now, if she's a known ho that's slept with several dudes in the neighborhood and everyone knows it, then she needs to just find someone from the other side of town who doesn't know about her ex-ho past to wife her up.
So... woman act as liberated and sexually open "I wanna get my freak on/I know this isn't going anywhere" with the kind of man that they know they would never be serious about. Because they are not as concerned with the perception/reprecussions.
If the woman thinks she might want to get serious (i.e.she's met "Mr. Right") and wants to be taken seriously by the man... she makes him (and herself) follow the "society driven rules" for taking it slow, and not jumping into bed. Often this is not because she does not want to have sex, but more because she wants his perception of her to be more pure (i.e. someone her could marry cuz she doesn't hop into bed on the first night).
Sorry men but you can't have it both ways... If you're honest with yourself you will admit you aint' tryin' to wife no woman that sexed you on the first night!!! And that's precisely why women do it!
like bombshell said, it happens when the roles are reversed all the time. i know sometimes when i go out with her, there may be women out there that throw shades or dirty looks. just chalk it up to the game and keep it pushing. lol.
Because if you're "dating" someone, you treat them differently than how you would treat a jump off. If we're doing the normal "dating" stuff", now why would the woman start acting all ho-ish?
Besides, just because a woman has a past doesn't mean she's a "ho" . Like many have already stated, when a woman meets someone she feels she has a connection with, she wants it to last, so she'll take it slow. Because we all know what happens when a woman gives it up at the first hello.
BUT THAT WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER...THE PROBLEM COMES IN HONESTLY...I MEET A NICE GUY AND I WANT HIM TO KNOW EVERYTHING SO THAT THERE ARE NO SECRETS BUT HOW CAN YOU SAY..."WE MIGHT BE IN THE MALL AND SEE SOMEONE IVE FUCKED, BUT THAT'S THE PAST BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT YOU NOW?"
THE MENTALITY OF THE EXTREMELY SEXUALLY ACTIVE FEMALE IS SOMETHING OF A CONUNDRUM BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART-- SEX IS THE EMOTIONAL PART IN THE SITUATION. NOT UNTIL THEY HAVE REALIZED HOW THEIR PROMISCUITY HAS BEEN TO THEIR DISADVANTAGE (MULTIPLE CHILDREN, MULTIPLE DISEASES OR A HORRIBLE REPUTATION) DO THEY ATTEMPT TO REWORK THEIR IMAGE.
IVE HAD MY SHARE OF SUCKERS TOO--ALL DAY SUCKERS....THE ONCE WHO MET ME IN THE STRIP CLUB OR SOME OTHER ARKWARD PLACE AND THEY EXPECT ME TO CHANGE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THEM, SPEND HIS MONEY AND TIME, EVEN ADMIT TO "CHANGE" (USUALLY JUST DOING DIRT ON THE LOW) AND WHEN HE ASK WHY THE RESPONSE IS ALWAYS THE SAME...."ITS ALL FOR YOU , BOO". HE LAMES ARE SIMPS BECAUSE THEY THINK ITS SIMPLY FOR THEM
"YOU CANT TURN A HOE INTO A HOUSEWIFE"...I USED TO DISAGREE WITH THIS SOO MUCH UNTIL IN ONE LARGE SMOKING SESSIONS, MY MALE FRIEND GAVE ME THEIR REASONING.....BECAUSE HER MENTALITY NEVER CHANGES......SHE WILL ALWAYS REVERT BACK TO HER SELFISH, GREEDY, CONNIVING ACTIONS.......I TRUTHFULLY AGREE.
SOMETIMES WHEN IM ANGRY WITH MY GUY.....WHO HAS BEEN MY FRIEND SINCE I WAS LIKE 17,AND WATCH THE TRANSFORMATION.....FROM GOOD GIRL GONE BAD TO GROWN ASS WOMAN WITH A PAST.....I THINK ABOUT GOING BACK TO DOING ME ONLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS EASIER BUT THEN I REMEMBER THAT THIS ISNT ONE OF THE MILLIONS OF LAMES THAT CHOSE ME, I CHOSE HIM....
I live without regret but like Jay-Z said, "once a good girls gone bad, she's gone forever"
GIRL I LOVE IT....IM JUST GLAD I DIDNT GET CAUGHT UP WITH A SPORT TEAM WORTH OF CHILDREN BEFORE WE HAD A CHANCE AT THIS.....YOU KNOW BEING A HOE AND ALL :)
Then when their "young" asses want to grow up they expect for their whorish ways to be forgotten? It just makes no sense. However, I do believe people can see the error in their ways and make the decision to change; but expecting people to put it on the backburner as they do and to make a permanent mental note that now they want to behave, is perplexing and not realistic.
It's definitely NOT someone who give it up on the first night and I'll tell u why. If a guy and girl have been talking over the phone and or via email for a few months and they go on their first date and they have sex that 1st night, it doesn't mean she's a HO. She couldn've been on a 2yr hiatus or maybe she just got out of a 6yr relationship and needed to release some tension.
One of my guy friends told me that he met this girl and she was holding out on him for months! They went out...chilled and did everything that constitutes dating and he never got to hit it. One day, one of his boys asked...him if he was dating the chick he brought around and he said yeah why...and he said..."b/c she done f*ck every dude within a 20 block radius including his friend he was talking to. And she f*cked all his friends. He confronted her about it and said she didn't let him hit b/c "he was the one" but he didn't want to hear that sh*t after she was suckin and f*ckin one of his boys just the day b4.
I say all of that to say that you can't call someone a ho based on their actions sometimes.
At the end of the day....ho's need love too I guess. She can't be a ho for the rest of her life b/c her body will change especially after all the sexin she did in her life span lol.
A ho may sleep around with numerous somebodies but she doesn't give it up to everyone she has the one's she f*cks and the one's she uses to fix things around the house and pay her bills. As for the label "ho" I think talking to someone and sleeping with them on the same night may not make you a ho unless you do that everynight with different men. We as women need to seriously understand our worth and know that it is priceless. How do you expect others to respect when respect doesn't start from within?
It's the Ho's, Whores and Sluts that need to understand that.
:)
What happened to her for her to be the way that she is? Was she molested as a child? Was she raped? Was she looking for 'love' in all the wrong places b/c of an absentee father? Did she learn this behavior from her mother who was having different men in the house? There's are reason why ho's are ho's.
But that doesn't take away from the fact that they need love too. Eventually, maybe they'll find good or something will happen to make them appreiate their worth and they'll turn over a new leaf and find a man that will help pull them through whatever it was that lead them astray.
My concern (not really but for lack of a better expression) are those that claim they are like that because they feel they are rebelling against some double standard or society's labels...
There is a double standard but as far as I'm concerned it can stay forever because I have no desire to be like any man that sleeps around with random chicks...better yet that man is just as undesireable to a decent woman as a ho is to a decent man
I do believe people can change, trick is it has to be because they want to better themselves and not just to attract or impress someone else - when the change is made for the wrong reason chances are the person will revert to their old behavior at the first sign of disappointment
And I agree with " I have no desire to be like any man that sleeps around with random chicks...better yet that man is just as undesireable to a decent woman as a ho is to a decent man"
But like u said. Change has to come from within & it has to be done for the right reasons 4 it to be effective.
That is a statement of personal opinion just as me saying i was rejecting a societal role. For you to agree that a double standard does exist but then say what YOU dont have the desire to be sound judgmental to me.
Being the only female with 10 brothers (including a twin) exposed me to that same double standard on a constant and daily basis until i was at a point where i could assert myself......
Oh but i can completely agree with you about the change thing though
Yeah, I am a person and that is my opinion... :-D
@ " For you to agree that a double standard does exist but then say what YOU dont have the desire to be sound judgmental to me."
Being judgmental within reason is not a bad thing.
Based on my upbringing, being a ho is not respectable or appealing (in a man or a woman) to me and I choose not to be that and YES, that is a form of judgment...its called personal judgment
Am I on a crusade to persecute those that choose to be hoes...NO, hence, my personal judgment is "within reason" as it only affects me and how I live my life
Every woman alive has faced some form of double standard, I'm sure most have chosen one DS or another to challenge and assert ourselves against...again personal choice and judgment dictates which DS we choose to conquer...
What if she do what she does for the hell of it. . . I know a chick who does, calls herself a hoe then gets ma when the rest of the world does it
I don't believe that ppl wake up and say...the sun is out, the birds are chirping, I think today is the perfect day for me to start my journey on becoming a ho". Something had to trigger something. Whether she got treated bad by some ain't sh*t dudes, or she just wants to get money and not have to work....it has to start from something.
As 4 ur friend...she's an umpalumpa. How can she get mad b/c someone is calling her what she is especially if she agrees that she's ho....lol... (singing ludacris's......u a hoooooooooo...ho...u a hoooooo....hooo ....u a hoooo...hooo...I said that u a hooo) lol...that's wht u should tell her to reference lol.
and yes most women who are looose were molested or raped or just had a terrible relationship with their fathers... or they get it from they momma...
it runs in the blood.
It takes a certain type of man I guess.....
Maybe ya'll r in the "nice guys finish last group" therefore the ho's recognize the 'good' in ya'll and decide to fall back on her ho-ish tendancies. Maybe u should start to portray a "ain't sh*t" nucca attitude then she'll continue her ho'ish ways and u'll get the skin s*cked off ur d*ck and she'll do spins and flips on it until u need a 5hr energy drink. :) lol
lol.
LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, "PRACTICE MAKE PERFECT" : )
Love is a powerful thing. Once a woman has a mans heart he will love her whether she was a ho or not. For unconditional Love a man will put aside all that he has to be with that woman. That is the truth. He will let go of his ego. He will not worry about his image. For real Love, a man will make himself vulnerable to his woman. He will accept her in her entirety, faults and whatever baggage comes along with her.
And if it doesn't work he is a better man for having had the opportunity to have experienced true Love and lost than to never have had true Love at all. I'm out...
now with that said. you have to know who you're dealing with and offer more to the equation. like real talk get cerebal with it. why were u a ho. were u the type who just loved tasting the football teams cum, cus I mean that's the pill no one is trying to swallow.
but its all relative. how many is too many, which is another post that was written. some women say 10 is too many. you better believe alot of women have over 10 partners and they are married, in love and great wives. some dudes might say she was a ho. others might say its poor judgment.
but the communication is needed, it makes u understand the person and the situations rather than just the acts
You can't cummunicate with a person who doesnt know why they did what they did.
at the end of the day as long as the women is being true to her self it's not an issue.
Cant turn a ho into a housewife
Hos dont act right
Theres hos on a mission, an hoes on a crackpipe
Hey ho how ya doin, where ya been?
Prolly doin ho stuff cuz there you ho again
Its a ho wide world, that we livin in
feline, feminine, fantastical, women
Not all, just some
You ho who you are
Theres hoes in tha room, theres hoes in tha car
theres hoes on stage, theres hoes by tha bar
hos by near, an hos by far
Ho! (But can i getta ride?!)
NO! (Cmon, nigga why?!)
Cuz youz a HO!!!
He is like, looking at me just walking down the street I won't so much as go near a penis. But behind closed doors, I become Vanessa Del Rio reincarnate.
He told me when we first met his fellas thought "she look like the 'don't mess my hair up, and get that thang away from me'" type. When it has become the complete opposite.
Be careful what you wish for.....lmao!!!
I too hate when chicks try to get brand new when they link up with a dude outside the circle she was just being passed around in. Most times the dude already knows you're a jump so its all the more stressful that shes tryna act like a virgin when you get the one-on-one